Discussion:
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Frank-Rainer Grahl
2017-05-21 19:33:45 UTC
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It doesn't. It checks the urls against a local copy of known bad sites. Unchecking
it in recent versions will still fetch the safebrowsing lists from google and
tracking protection lists from mozilla.

FRG
This has the effect of not sending Google every url you enter. As for vacuuming
there is a
Regards
Frank-Rainer Grahl
Christer Jacobsson
2017-06-14 06:19:49 UTC
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As Salaam Aleikum!
1. Creating a new profile for SMPmW118 (Christer Jacobsson)
The profile She uses now is faulty, first it can't be changed and secondly, processing
email, for example deleting file attaches from outgoing emails (She shares music files
with a friend) is nearly impossible and IF the process succeds it's logey as hell. So She
want to create a new fresh profile for SM, but to do that She has to have the current
profile visible. So how does She accomplish this? As She understands She have to open a
second instance of SM with some parameter so it will enter the Profile Manager mode, but
what is this parameter, and how do I do so that two instances of SMPmW118 are open
simultaneously?
Start your .exe file with parameter: -ProfileManager
Ok, so the new profile is created, how do She get the Mail and News
folders to the new profile? Just a simple Copy or Move them to the new
location? In the current file there exist three files namely

<$quote>

78476851.s
78476851.w
90820967.s

</$quote>

What does these contains? Passwords, form data or what? And in what file
is the Personal Adress Book store so She can copy that over to the
spanking new profile? And lastly, how does She do to preserve the column
organization She now have in the flawed profile and which She wants to
have in the new profile too? And what char settings is best to use
regarding the Swedish alphabets three tail-end charcters namely 'Åå',
'Ää' and 'Öö'? Currently She uses the UTF-8 settings in the Prefs notebook.


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Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
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Dave Yeo
2017-06-15 05:43:36 UTC
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Hi Christer, did you ever update your computer?
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Feb 2017 12:00:07 +0000
As Salaam Aleikum!
1. Creating a new profile for SMPmW118 (Christer Jacobsson)
The profile She uses now is faulty, first it can't be changed and
secondly, processing
email, for example deleting file attaches from outgoing emails (She shares music files
with a friend) is nearly impossible and IF the process succeds it's
logey as hell. So She
want to create a new fresh profile for SM, but to do that She has to have the current
profile visible. So how does She accomplish this? As She understands
She have to open a
second instance of SM with some parameter so it will enter the
Profile Manager mode, but
what is this parameter, and how do I do so that two instances of SMPmW118 are open
simultaneously?
Start your .exe file with parameter: -ProfileManager
Ok, so the new profile is created, how do She get the Mail and News
folders to the new profile? Just a simple Copy or Move them to the new
location? In the current file there exist three files namely
<$quote>
78476851.s
78476851.w
90820967.s
</$quote>
What does these contains? Passwords, form data or what? And in what file
is the Personal Adress Book store so She can copy that over to the
spanking new profile? And lastly, how does She do to preserve the column
organization She now have in the flawed profile and which She wants to
have in the new profile too? And what char settings is best to use
regarding the Swedish alphabets three tail-end charcters namely 'Åå',
'Ää' and 'Öö'? Currently She uses the UTF-8 settings in the Prefs notebook.
The problem is that it is so long that I've used SM 1.18 that I've
forgotten a lot of this stuff. You can try the directions at
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring but really it is for
newer SeaMonkey. Just make sure you have a good backup before starting.
You might be able to start SeaMonkey with seamonkey.exe -no-remote
-profilemanager twice, once with your old profile and once with your new
profile and drag the mail folders from your old profile to new one. Some
of the stuff you're going to have to recreate and I believe there was a
way to move the old encrypted passwords but I've long forgot.
Sorry for not being much help
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2017-06-22 06:50:19 UTC
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1. Creating a new profile for SMPmW118 (Christer Jacobsson)
The profile She uses now is faulty, first it can't be changed and secondly, processing
email, for example deleting file attaches from outgoing emails (She shares music files
with a friend) is nearly impossible and IF the process succeds it's logey as hell. So She
want to create a new fresh profile for SM, but to do that She has to have the current
profile visible. So how does She accomplish this? As She understands She have to open a
second instance of SM with some parameter so it will enter the Profile Manager mode, but
what is this parameter, and how do I do so that two instances of SMPmW118 are open
simultaneously?
Start your .exe file with parameter: -ProfileManager
Ok, so She can just do this and create a a new profile, and She espied
that a tool exist in SmpMw118 namely the Import facility where you can
import the adress book, mail and Settings, but the last She can't use
'cause it will import the faulty profile, but importing the Adress book
and the mail/newsgroups should work fine. But where should She place the
new profile, in the y:\mozilla.org tree or perhaps on the FAT32 volume
so the new profile can be accessed by both SMpMw118 and it's Win
equivalent as some sites She have troubles loggin in to with FF 10.0.12
and 17.0.11esr
And lastly two questions. Does some program exist that can check mail files in SMPmW118
for damages and if possible repair them and also delete duplicate messages? For FF, does
some "vacuum cleaner" program exist that can go through the files urlclassifier.sqlite
and places.sqlite (She thinks that the last file contains both bookmarks and history data
and remove duplicate entries and (hopefully) compact the files. For FF She have installed
a extension that allows history data to be kept for more than the seven-day standard - She
have set the limit to 99999 days - handy if She forgets the name for a certain site She
accessed a long time ago and want to revisit again.
urlclassifier.sqlite can be deleted, will be re-created again at next startup. It grows
block reported attack sites
block reported web forgeries
This has the effect of not sending Google every url you enter. As for vacuuming there is a
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/apps/internet/misc/upssv-1.0rc3.zip
Looked a bit complex, inform if you have it functional.
Cal
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?


Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
--
/GAIA (Insulin User - 21th Anniversary :-) Ex-wife deceased :-(
Team OS/2 e-mail: ***@gaea.se (Primary)
Team eCs e-mail: ***@yahoo.com (Alternate)
Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
Chunkawakan Lakota/Sioux: Horse
Dave Yeo
2017-06-23 04:56:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Feb 2017 12:00:07 +0000
1. Creating a new profile for SMPmW118 (Christer Jacobsson)
The profile She uses now is faulty, first it can't be changed and
secondly, processing
email, for example deleting file attaches from outgoing emails (She shares music files
with a friend) is nearly impossible and IF the process succeds it's
logey as hell. So She
want to create a new fresh profile for SM, but to do that She has to have the current
profile visible. So how does She accomplish this? As She understands
She have to open a
second instance of SM with some parameter so it will enter the
Profile Manager mode, but
what is this parameter, and how do I do so that two instances of SMPmW118 are open
simultaneously?
Start your .exe file with parameter: -ProfileManager
Ok, so She can just do this and create a a new profile, and She espied
that a tool exist in SmpMw118 namely the Import facility where you can
import the adress book, mail and Settings, but the last She can't use
'cause it will import the faulty profile, but importing the Adress book
and the mail/newsgroups should work fine. But where should She place the
new profile, in the y:\mozilla.org tree or perhaps on the FAT32 volume
so the new profile can be accessed by both SMpMw118 and it's Win
equivalent as some sites She have troubles loggin in to with FF 10.0.12
and 17.0.11esr
It's up to you. I know of people who put the profile on a FAT32 volume
to share their profile and they report that it works fine as long as the
drive letter is the same.
Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not easy
getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better, the Arca
Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
Post by Christer Jacobsson
And lastly two questions. Does some program exist that can check
mail files in SMPmW118
for damages and if possible repair them and also delete duplicate
messages? For FF, does
some "vacuum cleaner" program exist that can go through the files urlclassifier.sqlite
and places.sqlite (She thinks that the last file contains both
bookmarks and history data
and remove duplicate entries and (hopefully) compact the files. For
FF She have installed
a extension that allows history data to be kept for more than the
seven-day standard - She
have set the limit to 99999 days - handy if She forgets the name for
a certain site She accessed a long time ago and want to revisit again.
urlclassifier.sqlite can be deleted, will be re-created again at
next startup. It grows
block reported attack sites
block reported web forgeries
This has the effect of not sending Google every url you enter. As for
vacuuming there is a
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/apps/internet/misc/upssv-1.0rc3.zip
Looked a bit complex, inform if you have it functional.
Cal
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2017-06-23 06:28:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Feb 2017 12:00:07 +0000
1. Creating a new profile for SMPmW118 (Christer Jacobsson)
The profile She uses now is faulty, first it can't be changed and
secondly, processing
email, for example deleting file attaches from outgoing emails (She
shares music files
with a friend) is nearly impossible and IF the process succeds it's
logey as hell. So She
want to create a new fresh profile for SM, but to do that She has to
have the current
profile visible. So how does She accomplish this? As She understands
She have to open a
second instance of SM with some parameter so it will enter the
Profile Manager mode, but
what is this parameter, and how do I do so that two instances of SMPmW118 are open
simultaneously?
Start your .exe file with parameter: -ProfileManager
Ok, so She can just do this and create a a new profile, and She espied
that a tool exist in SmpMw118 namely the Import facility where you can
import the adress book, mail and Settings, but the last She can't use
'cause it will import the faulty profile, but importing the Adress book
and the mail/newsgroups should work fine. But where should She place the
new profile, in the y:\mozilla.org tree or perhaps on the FAT32 volume
so the new profile can be accessed by both SMpMw118 and it's Win
equivalent as some sites She have troubles loggin in to with FF 10.0.12
and 17.0.11esr
It's up to you. I know of people who put the profile on a FAT32 volume
to share their profile and they report that it works fine as long as the
drive letter is the same.
Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not easy
getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better, the Arca
Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
Why She havent't upgraded SMpMW yet it's because this ole box only have
640Mib of memory, but after the transfer to the new box with a new and
healthy profiel, then it's time to upgrade to SM 2.1 first and then to
the latest SM version - the new box have 8Gib of memory (and yes, She
knows that WSeB and various eCs'es can't handle more than 4Gib, but a
guy in an eCs newsgroup hade hacked the kernel so that data can be
placed above the 4Gib limit - good for placing tempoary in the x:\tmp
and x:\temp dirs.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
And lastly two questions. Does some program exist that can check
mail files in SMPmW118
for damages and if possible repair them and also delete duplicate
messages? For FF, does
some "vacuum cleaner" program exist that can go through the files
urlclassifier.sqlite
and places.sqlite (She thinks that the last file contains both
bookmarks and history data
and remove duplicate entries and (hopefully) compact the files. For
FF She have installed
a extension that allows history data to be kept for more than the
seven-day standard - She
have set the limit to 99999 days - handy if She forgets the name for
a certain site She accessed a long time ago and want to revisit again.
urlclassifier.sqlite can be deleted, will be re-created again at
next startup. It grows
block reported attack sites
block reported web forgeries
This has the effect of not sending Google every url you enter. As for
vacuuming there is a
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/apps/internet/misc/upssv-1.0rc3.zip
Looked a bit complex, inform if you have it functional.
Cal
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
And just HOW do you that XCOPY if the driveletters are the same on your
new box and the old box? That method of moving your partitions, how does
the XCOPY statement look when you XCOPY all your partitions to the new
box over the network?


Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
--
/GAIA (Insulin User - 21th Anniversary :-) Ex-wife deceased :-(
Team OS/2 e-mail: ***@gaea.se (Primary)
Team eCs e-mail: ***@yahoo.com (Alternate)
Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
Chunkawakan Lakota/Sioux: Horse
Peter Brown
2017-06-26 02:06:29 UTC
Permalink
Hi Christer
----- big snip -----
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
And just HOW do you that XCOPY if the driveletters are the same on your
new box and the old box? That method of moving your partitions, how does
the XCOPY statement look when you XCOPY all your partitions to the new
box over the network?
Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
The trick is to use different drive letters when initially creating new
volumes on the new disk. Then, after successfully using xcopy, change
the drive letter on the original (copied from) drive to another letter
not already in use thus "freeing up" the original drive letter for use
on the new drive.

eg

Original disk has Volumes C: D: E:

Use LVM to Create new Volume(s) on the new disk F: G: H:

Use xcopy C: to F: D: to G: E: to H:

Use LVM to reassign Volume drive letters C: to I: D: to J: E: to K:
Then reassign Volume drive letters F: to C: G: to D: H: to E:

Shutdown to remove old disk or simply reboot if leaving old disk in system.


Regards

Pete
Frank-Rainer Grahl
2017-06-23 08:00:28 UTC
Permalink
This has the effect of not sending Google every url you enter. As for
vacuuming there is a
Safebrowsing does not send google urls. It matches the urls you visit
against a static blacklist which is updated during startup. Even
disabling the options won't stop downloading the lists. SeaMonkey 2.52+
uses the js downloads backend. For this I still need to check to make
sure that downloaded files are not checked realtime. I don't think so but...

FRG
Christer Jacobsson
2017-06-24 07:33:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Feb 2017 12:00:07 +0000
1. Creating a new profile for SMPmW118 (Christer Jacobsson)
The profile She uses now is faulty, first it can't be changed and
secondly, processing
email, for example deleting file attaches from outgoing emails (She
shares music files
with a friend) is nearly impossible and IF the process succeds it's
logey as hell. So She
want to create a new fresh profile for SM, but to do that She has to
have the current
profile visible. So how does She accomplish this? As She understands
She have to open a
second instance of SM with some parameter so it will enter the
Profile Manager mode, but
what is this parameter, and how do I do so that two instances of SMPmW118 are open
simultaneously?
Start your .exe file with parameter: -ProfileManager
Ok, so She can just do this and create a a new profile, and She espied
that a tool exist in SmpMw118 namely the Import facility where you can
import the adress book, mail and Settings, but the last She can't use
'cause it will import the faulty profile, but importing the Adress book
and the mail/newsgroups should work fine. But where should She place the
new profile, in the y:\mozilla.org tree or perhaps on the FAT32 volume
so the new profile can be accessed by both SMpMw118 and it's Win
equivalent as some sites She have troubles loggin in to with FF 10.0.12
and 17.0.11esr
It's up to you. I know of people who put the profile on a FAT32 volume
to share their profile and they report that it works fine as long as the
drive letter is the same.
Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not easy
getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better, the Arca
Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
Why She havent't upgraded SMpMW yet it's because this ole box only have
640Mib of memory, but after the transfer to the new box with a new and
healthy profiel, then it's time to upgrade to SM 2.1 first and then to
the latest SM version - the new box have 8Gib of memory (and yes, She
knows that WSeB and various eCs'es can't handle more than 4Gib, but a
guy in an eCs newsgroup hade hacked the kernel so that data can be
placed above the 4Gib limit - good for placing tempoary in the x:\tmp
and x:\temp dirs.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
And lastly two questions. Does some program exist that can check
mail files in SMPmW118
for damages and if possible repair them and also delete duplicate
messages? For FF, does
some "vacuum cleaner" program exist that can go through the files
urlclassifier.sqlite
and places.sqlite (She thinks that the last file contains both
bookmarks and history data
and remove duplicate entries and (hopefully) compact the files. For
FF She have installed
a extension that allows history data to be kept for more than the
seven-day standard - She
have set the limit to 99999 days - handy if She forgets the name for
a certain site She accessed a long time ago and want to revisit again.
urlclassifier.sqlite can be deleted, will be re-created again at
next startup. It grows
block reported attack sites
block reported web forgeries
This has the effect of not sending Google every url you enter. As for
vacuuming there is a
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/apps/internet/misc/upssv-1.0rc3.zip
Looked a bit complex, inform if you have it functional.
Cal
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
And just HOW do you that XCOPY if the driveletters are the same on your
new box and the old box? That method of moving your partitions, how does
the XCOPY statement look when you XCOPY all your partitions to the new
box over the network? Does She have to install for instance
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the box and creating the partitions from
there? Or does it suffice that the new box be defined with a different
name in the router/gatewap than the name the current box have in the
router/gateway?


Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
--
/GAIA (Insulin User - 21th Anniversary :-) Ex-wife deceased :-(
Team OS/2 e-mail: ***@gaea.se (Primary)
Team eCs e-mail: ***@yahoo.com (Alternate)
Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
Chunkawakan Lakota/Sioux: Horse
Dave Yeo
2017-06-26 05:33:33 UTC
Permalink
Hi Christer, some of this is really off topic for this group, see below
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Why She havent't upgraded SMpMW yet it's because this ole box only have
640Mib of memory, but after the transfer to the new box with a new and
healthy profiel, then it's time to upgrade to SM 2.1 first and then to
the latest SM version - the new box have 8Gib of memory (and yes, She
knows that WSeB and various eCs'es can't handle more than 4Gib, but a
guy in an eCs newsgroup hade hacked the kernel so that data can be
placed above the 4Gib limit - good for placing tempoary in the x:\tmp
and x:\temp dirs.
ArcaOS comes with a similar utility to allow using memory above 4 GiB
(actually closer to 3.5GiB) as a ram disk.

[...]
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
And just HOW do you that XCOPY if the driveletters are the same on your
new box and the old box? That method of moving your partitions, how does
the XCOPY statement look when you XCOPY all your partitions to the new
box over the network? Does She have to install for instance
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the box and creating the partitions from
there? Or does it suffice that the new box be defined with a different
name in the router/gatewap than the name the current box have in the
router/gateway?
As Pete said, it is fairly easy with LVM and being able to assign drive
letters. Previously I used to have to plan my partitions carefully, plug
in the new drive as drive #2, do the copying, and then switch the drives
boot order.
The correct xcopy command to copy x: to y: is xcopy /h /o /t /s /e /r /v
x:\* y:\

Can I suggest that you post your questions to usenet, newsgroups such as
comp.os.os2.apps, comp.os.os2.ecs and comp.os.os2.misc are a good start.
If you need an account, there's a few free ones out there. I had good
luck with aioe, news://nntp.aioe.org
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2017-06-27 06:49:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Hi Christer, some of this is really off topic for this group, see below
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Why She havent't upgraded SMpMW yet it's because this ole box only have
640Mib of memory, but after the transfer to the new box with a new and
healthy profiel, then it's time to upgrade to SM 2.1 first and then to
the latest SM version - the new box have 8Gib of memory (and yes, She
knows that WSeB and various eCs'es can't handle more than 4Gib, but a
guy in an eCs newsgroup hade hacked the kernel so that data can be
placed above the 4Gib limit - good for placing tempoary in the x:\tmp
and x:\temp dirs.
ArcaOS comes with a similar utility to allow using memory above 4 GiB
(actually closer to 3.5GiB) as a ram disk.
[...]
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
And just HOW do you that XCOPY if the driveletters are the same on your
new box and the old box? That method of moving your partitions, how does
the XCOPY statement look when you XCOPY all your partitions to the new
box over the network? Does She have to install for instance
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the box and creating the partitions from
there? Or does it suffice that the new box be defined with a different
name in the router/gatewap than the name the current box have in the
router/gateway?
As Pete said, it is fairly easy with LVM and being able to assign drive
letters. Previously I used to have to plan my partitions carefully, plug
in the new drive as drive #2, do the copying, and then switch the drives
boot order.
The correct xcopy command to copy x: to y: is xcopy /h /o /t /s /e /r /v
x:\* y:\
Can I suggest that you post your questions to usenet, newsgroups such as
comp.os.os2.apps, comp.os.os2.ecs and comp.os.os2.misc are a good start.
If you need an account, there's a few free ones out there. I had good
luck with aioe, news://nntp.aioe.org
Dave
--
/GAIA (Insulin User - 21th Anniversary :-) Ex-wife deceased :-(
Team OS/2 e-mail: ***@gaea.se (Primary)
Team eCs e-mail: ***@yahoo.com (Alternate)
Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
Chunkawakan Lakota/Sioux: Horse
Christer Jacobsson
2017-06-27 06:49:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Hi Christer, some of this is really off topic for this group, see below
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Why She havent't upgraded SMpMW yet it's because this ole box only have
640Mib of memory, but after the transfer to the new box with a new and
healthy profiel, then it's time to upgrade to SM 2.1 first and then to
the latest SM version - the new box have 8Gib of memory (and yes, She
knows that WSeB and various eCs'es can't handle more than 4Gib, but a
guy in an eCs newsgroup hade hacked the kernel so that data can be
placed above the 4Gib limit - good for placing tempoary in the x:\tmp
and x:\temp dirs.
ArcaOS comes with a similar utility to allow using memory above 4 GiB
(actually closer to 3.5GiB) as a ram disk.
[...]
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
And just HOW do you that XCOPY if the driveletters are the same on your
new box and the old box? That method of moving your partitions, how does
the XCOPY statement look when you XCOPY all your partitions to the new
box over the network? Does She have to install for instance
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the box and creating the partitions from
there? Or does it suffice that the new box be defined with a different
name in the router/gatewap than the name the current box have in the
router/gateway?
As Pete said, it is fairly easy with LVM and being able to assign drive
letters. Previously I used to have to plan my partitions carefully, plug
in the new drive as drive #2, do the copying, and then switch the drives
boot order.
The correct xcopy command to copy x: to y: is xcopy /h /o /t /s /e /r /v
x:\* y:\
Ok, but as the old and the new box is connected to the same router, the
old one having the name 'Sorileasrv' and the new is 'Sorileacli', should
not the XCOPY look like this? XCOPY /h /o /t /s /e /r /v
\Sorileasrv\c:*.* \Sorileacli\c: ?
Post by Dave Yeo
Can I suggest that you post your questions to usenet, newsgroups such as
comp.os.os2.apps, comp.os.os2.ecs and comp.os.os2.misc are a good start.
If you need an account, there's a few free ones out there. I had good
luck with aioe, news://nntp.aioe.org
Dave
The trouble is that this profile is faulty so She can't access the
ecomstation ng's, only this newsgroup.


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Christer Jacobsson
2017-07-06 07:54:38 UTC
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Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Feb 2017 12:00:07 +0000
1. Creating a new profile for SMPmW118 (Christer Jacobsson)
The profile She uses now is faulty, first it can't be changed and
secondly, processing
email, for example deleting file attaches from outgoing emails (She
shares music files
with a friend) is nearly impossible and IF the process succeds it's
logey as hell. So She
want to create a new fresh profile for SM, but to do that She has to
have the current
profile visible. So how does She accomplish this? As She understands
She have to open a
second instance of SM with some parameter so it will enter the
Profile Manager mode, but
what is this parameter, and how do I do so that two instances of SMPmW118 are open
simultaneously?
Start your .exe file with parameter: -ProfileManager
Ok, so She can just do this and create a a new profile, and She espied
that a tool exist in SmpMw118 namely the Import facility where you can
import the adress book, mail and Settings, but the last She can't use
'cause it will import the faulty profile, but importing the Adress book
and the mail/newsgroups should work fine. But where should She place the
new profile, in the y:\mozilla.org tree or perhaps on the FAT32 volume
so the new profile can be accessed by both SMpMw118 and it's Win
equivalent as some sites She have troubles loggin in to with FF 10.0.12
and 17.0.11esr
It's up to you. I know of people who put the profile on a FAT32 volume
to share their profile and they report that it works fine as long as the
drive letter is the same.
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.

She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Post by Dave Yeo
Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not easy
getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better, the Arca
Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
Post by Christer Jacobsson
And lastly two questions. Does some program exist that can check
mail files in SMPmW118
for damages and if possible repair them and also delete duplicate
messages? For FF, does
some "vacuum cleaner" program exist that can go through the files
urlclassifier.sqlite
and places.sqlite (She thinks that the last file contains both
bookmarks and history data
and remove duplicate entries and (hopefully) compact the files. For
FF She have installed
a extension that allows history data to be kept for more than the
seven-day standard - She
have set the limit to 99999 days - handy if She forgets the name for
a certain site She accessed a long time ago and want to revisit again.
urlclassifier.sqlite can be deleted, will be re-created again at
next startup. It grows
block reported attack sites
block reported web forgeries
This has the effect of not sending Google every url you enter. As for
vacuuming there is a
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/apps/internet/misc/upssv-1.0rc3.zip
Looked a bit complex, inform if you have it functional.
Cal
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
In Her case it's about moving all data from the old box to the new box
and having the same driveletters on the new box for the corresponding
'old' partitions on the old box, for example the old F: partition with
it''s contents should be copied to the new F: on the new box - rinse and
repeat for all the other partitions that sits on the old box but NOT the
C: that contains W*nXP, there She will do a fresh install. Would be nice
though to somehow backup some applications, i.e. browsers stuff and
restoring them to Win7 when it's created and up and running. She
supposes that this xcopying could be done over the network or using File
and Print services to to the copying. Will also use rsync to backup the
whole system to a 70Gib USB stick formatted with JFS. If File and Print
services don't work, install rsync and restore the whole shebang from
the USB stick. As She understands it an XOPY over a network would be
something like this: XCOPY \\SORILESERV\C:\*.* \\SORILEACLI\C:\ /S /E /V
/H /T /R or is She out in the blue here?


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Dave Yeo
2017-07-07 03:55:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd recommend
using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program directory
makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+ hard.
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not
easy getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better,
the Arca Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
[...]
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
In Her case it's about moving all data from the old box to the new box
and having the same driveletters on the new box for the corresponding
'old' partitions on the old box, for example the old F: partition with
it''s contents should be copied to the new F: on the new box - rinse and
repeat for all the other partitions that sits on the old box but NOT the
C: that contains W*nXP, there She will do a fresh install. Would be nice
though to somehow backup some applications, i.e. browsers stuff and
restoring them to Win7 when it's created and up and running. She
supposes that this xcopying could be done over the network or using File
and Print services to to the copying. Will also use rsync to backup the
whole system to a 70Gib USB stick formatted with JFS. If File and Print
services don't work, install rsync and restore the whole shebang from
the USB stick. As She understands it an XOPY over a network would be
something like this: XCOPY \\SORILESERV\C:\*.* \\SORILEACLI\C:\ /S /E /V
/H /T /R or is She out in the blue here?
I've always used /H /O /T /S /E /R /V and don't use *.* but rather * so
the wildcard gets files without a dot or extension
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2017-07-09 06:48:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd recommend
using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program directory
makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+ hard.
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
uses to kick off 17.0esr look like this:

<$quote>

setlocal
set BEGINLIBPATH=n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\firefox-17.0.11esr
set LIBPATHSTRICT=T
set MOZILLA_PLUGIN_PATH=n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\plugins
cdd n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\firefox-17.0.11esr
firefox.exe -P "default" -no_remote
endlocal

</quote>
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not
easy getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better,
the Arca Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
Must She log into his site or does this utility exist elsewhere, for
example on hobbes, THAT site She can access via the NFTP/2 program.
Post by Dave Yeo
[...]
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
Not possible in Her case as the drives on the old system is SCSI and in
the new box 2x500GB SATA drivers.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
In Her case it's about moving all data from the old box to the new box
and having the same driveletters on the new box for the corresponding
'old' partitions on the old box, for example the old F: partition with
it''s contents should be copied to the new F: on the new box - rinse and
repeat for all the other partitions that sits on the old box but NOT the
C: that contains W*nXP, there She will do a fresh install. Would be nice
though to somehow backup some applications, i.e. browsers stuff and
restoring them to Win7 when it's created and up and running. She
supposes that this xcopying could be done over the network or using File
and Print services to to the copying. Will also use rsync to backup the
whole system to a 70Gib USB stick formatted with JFS. If File and Print
services don't work, install rsync and restore the whole shebang from
the USB stick. As She understands it an XOPY over a network would be
something like this: XCOPY \\SORILESERV\C:\*.* \\SORILEACLI\C:\ /S /E /V
/H /T /R or is She out in the blue here?
I've always used /H /O /T /S /E /R /V and don't use *.* but rather * so
the wildcard gets files without a dot or extension
Dave
Ok, so when the new box is up and running with the and connected to the
network with the name 'SORILEACLI' and the old box with the name
'SORILEASRV' because She have Warp Server installed and had used this
flavour of os/2, She must somehow give the new box access rights to all
the partitions on the old minus the XP partition and using XCOPY
\\SORILEASRV\C:* \\SORILEACLI\C: /H /O /T /S /E /R /V - then rinse &
repeat for all the other partitions that sits on the new box.


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Dave Yeo
2017-07-09 16:50:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with a
directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles for
SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
Post by Christer Jacobsson
<$quote>
setlocal
set BEGINLIBPATH=n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\firefox-17.0.11esr
set LIBPATHSTRICT=T
set MOZILLA_PLUGIN_PATH=n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\plugins
cdd n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\firefox-17.0.11esr
firefox.exe -P "default" -no_remote
endlocal
</quote>
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not
easy getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better,
the Arca Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
Must She log into his site or does this utility exist elsewhere, for
example on hobbes, THAT site She can access via the NFTP/2 program.
Currently you have to use HTTPS to download the utility. If needed, you
can always get wget from Hobbes and use that to download ANPM.
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
[...]
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
This may be a bit offtopic, but have somebody in this ng have any
experience using File and print service in eCs? She plans to install the
ecs22_en_cd1_smp_betaII.zip on the new box which comes with both the
Air-boot and the PEER server that's is running here in eCs 1.2. So what
steps must be taken so that She can transfer all partitions to the new box?
I've always just moved my hard drives to new boxes and used xcopy to
move partitions to new hard drives (after partitioning).
Not possible in Her case as the drives on the old system is SCSI and in
the new box 2x500GB SATA drivers.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
ArcaOS has been released as well if you want something more up to date
Dave
In Her case it's about moving all data from the old box to the new box
and having the same driveletters on the new box for the corresponding
'old' partitions on the old box, for example the old F: partition with
it''s contents should be copied to the new F: on the new box - rinse and
repeat for all the other partitions that sits on the old box but NOT the
C: that contains W*nXP, there She will do a fresh install. Would be nice
though to somehow backup some applications, i.e. browsers stuff and
restoring them to Win7 when it's created and up and running. She
supposes that this xcopying could be done over the network or using File
and Print services to to the copying. Will also use rsync to backup the
whole system to a 70Gib USB stick formatted with JFS. If File and Print
services don't work, install rsync and restore the whole shebang from
the USB stick. As She understands it an XOPY over a network would be
something like this: XCOPY \\SORILESERV\C:\*.* \\SORILEACLI\C:\ /S /E /V
/H /T /R or is She out in the blue here?
I've always used /H /O /T /S /E /R /V and don't use *.* but rather *
so the wildcard gets files without a dot or extension
Dave
Ok, so when the new box is up and running with the and connected to the
network with the name 'SORILEACLI' and the old box with the name
'SORILEASRV' because She have Warp Server installed and had used this
flavour of os/2, She must somehow give the new box access rights to all
the partitions on the old minus the XP partition and using XCOPY
\\SORILEASRV\C:* \\SORILEACLI\C: /H /O /T /S /E /R /V - then rinse &
repeat for all the other partitions that sits on the new box.
Looks right. I've never copied across the network to test
Dave
Dave Yeo
2017-07-31 05:40:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
She looked into the Readme.txt for SMPmW118 and came across an example
how to divorce the profile data from the current y:\mozilla.org... and
that was to set the mozilla_home to say
SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\data
This would result, according to the readme.txt that the profiles would
be stored in r:\data\mozilla\profiles and under that the profiles
themselves. One guy gave Her a tip to get rid of that pesky xxxxxxxx.slt
dir and that was to place a prefs.js containing a couple of lines os
alphabet soup, then that xxxxxxxx.slt dir wouldn't be created at all,
making the profile path much cleaner :-)
Yes, that is correct about how SET MOZILLA_HOME works, including SM 2.x
going under SeaMonkey. Don't know about the prefs.js trick.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with
a directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles
for SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
What would the differences be if She uses your first example or your
second suggestion?
Shallower directories with the second example, though it is all personal
preference
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2017-08-02 06:47:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
She looked into the Readme.txt for SMPmW118 and came across an example
how to divorce the profile data from the current y:\mozilla.org... and
that was to set the mozilla_home to say
SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\data
This would result, according to the readme.txt that the profiles would
be stored in r:\data\mozilla\profiles and under that the profiles
themselves. One guy gave Her a tip to get rid of that pesky xxxxxxxx.slt
dir and that was to place a prefs.js containing a couple of lines os
alphabet soup, then that xxxxxxxx.slt dir wouldn't be created at all,
making the profile path much cleaner :-)
Yes, that is correct about how SET MOZILLA_HOME works, including SM 2.x
going under SeaMonkey. Don't know about the prefs.js trick.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with
a directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles
for SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
What would the differences be if She uses your first example or your
second suggestion?
Shallower directories with the second example, though it is all personal
preference
Dave
If She uses your example, i.e. setting SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\mozilla.org,
what dir structure will be created when She creates the new profiles for
SMPMW118 and FF/2? Ok, the mail and newsgroups would end up on the r:
partition, but that can come in handy if She must request a new pw for a
site and Copy & Paste to FF/2 doesn't work - have experienced this ot at
least one site doing this, but some sites have a button named "Remember
me" in the login procedure, so if She manages to login to the site in
Win7, then it will carry over to for example FF/2 on the OS/2 side. But
on another tack: Can GenMac be installed in the WSeB using the genMac
that lives on the eCs 2.0 installation CD's or even on eCs 1.2(?) before
it's transferred onto the new box? And btw, have the MMOS2 part been
updated in the various eCs version or is the MMOS2 the same as in the
classic WSeB?



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Peter Brown
2017-08-03 00:16:15 UTC
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Hi Christer
Post by Christer Jacobsson
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Post by Dave Yeo
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Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
She looked into the Readme.txt for SMPmW118 and came across an example
how to divorce the profile data from the current y:\mozilla.org... and
that was to set the mozilla_home to say
SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\data
This would result, according to the readme.txt that the profiles would
be stored in r:\data\mozilla\profiles and under that the profiles
themselves. One guy gave Her a tip to get rid of that pesky xxxxxxxx.slt
dir and that was to place a prefs.js containing a couple of lines os
alphabet soup, then that xxxxxxxx.slt dir wouldn't be created at all,
making the profile path much cleaner :-)
Yes, that is correct about how SET MOZILLA_HOME works, including SM
2.x going under SeaMonkey. Don't know about the prefs.js trick.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with
a directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles
for SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
What would the differences be if She uses your first example or your
second suggestion?
Shallower directories with the second example, though it is all
personal preference
Dave
If She uses your example, i.e. setting SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\mozilla.org,
I would shorten that to SET MOZILLA_HOME=R: as the Mozilla app will then
create a directory structure R:\Mozilla\Profiles on first startup.

I also seem to recall that mozilla.org was meant to be the root
directory for the application files to be stored in eg mozilla.org\seamonkey
Post by Christer Jacobsson
what dir structure will be created when She creates the new profiles for
partition, but that can come in handy if She must request a new pw for a
site and Copy & Paste to FF/2 doesn't work - have experienced this ot at
least one site doing this, but some sites have a button named "Remember
me" in the login procedure, so if She manages to login to the site in
Win7, then it will carry over to for example FF/2 on the OS/2 side. But
on another tack: Can GenMac be installed in the WSeB using the genMac
that lives on the eCs 2.0 installation CD's or even on eCs 1.2(?) before
it's transferred onto the new box? And btw, have the MMOS2 part been
updated in the various eCs version or is the MMOS2 the same as in the
classic WSeB?
Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
I would guess that genmac from an eCS distro can be installed to WSeB. I
would try installing genmac and any required nic driver pack then use
Protocols and Adapters to Change nic drivers prior to Power Off and
moving drive to new box.

eCS integrates the CWMM multimedia classes but MMOS2 is otherwise the
same I think.


Regards

Pete
Dave Yeo
2017-08-03 04:25:58 UTC
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Post by Dave Yeo
Hi Christer
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as
it is
now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
She looked into the Readme.txt for SMPmW118 and came across an example
how to divorce the profile data from the current y:\mozilla.org... and
that was to set the mozilla_home to say
SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\data
This would result, according to the readme.txt that the profiles would
be stored in r:\data\mozilla\profiles and under that the profiles
themselves. One guy gave Her a tip to get rid of that pesky
xxxxxxxx.slt
dir and that was to place a prefs.js containing a couple of lines os
alphabet soup, then that xxxxxxxx.slt dir wouldn't be created at all,
making the profile path much cleaner :-)
Yes, that is correct about how SET MOZILLA_HOME works, including SM
2.x going under SeaMonkey. Don't know about the prefs.js trick.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with
a directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles
for SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
What would the differences be if She uses your first example or your
second suggestion?
Shallower directories with the second example, though it is all
personal preference
Dave
If She uses your example, i.e. setting SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\mozilla.org,
I would shorten that to SET MOZILLA_HOME=R: as the Mozilla app will then
create a directory structure R:\Mozilla\Profiles on first startup.
No, only Firefox and SeaMonkey use Mozilla.
I have SET MOZILLA_HOME=Z:\Mozprofiles and under that
Downloads (created by SM IIRC)
Moonchild Productions (Where Palemoon put its profile)
Mozilla
Thunderbird

and under Mozilla
Extensions (unused, I believe it for Firefox and universally installed
extensions)
Firefox
Profiles (SM 1.x)
SeaMonkey (SM 2.x)

Much better to put these under a common subdirectory.
Post by Dave Yeo
I also seem to recall that mozilla.org was meant to be the root
directory for the application files to be stored in eg
mozilla.org\seamonkey
I believe your correct.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
what dir structure will be created when She creates the new profiles for
partition, but that can come in handy if She must request a new pw for a
site and Copy & Paste to FF/2 doesn't work - have experienced this ot at
least one site doing this, but some sites have a button named "Remember
me" in the login procedure, so if She manages to login to the site in
Win7, then it will carry over to for example FF/2 on the OS/2 side. But
on another tack: Can GenMac be installed in the WSeB using the genMac
that lives on the eCs 2.0 installation CD's or even on eCs 1.2(?) before
it's transferred onto the new box? And btw, have the MMOS2 part been
updated in the various eCs version or is the MMOS2 the same as in the
classic WSeB?
Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
I would guess that genmac from an eCS distro can be installed to WSeB. I
would try installing genmac and any required nic driver pack then use
Protocols and Adapters to Change nic drivers prior to Power Off and
moving drive to new box.
eCS integrates the CWMM multimedia classes but MMOS2 is otherwise the
same I think.
There's a different mminstal program in eCS and currently ArcaOS. The
ArcaOS is due to be updated

Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2017-09-24 05:17:35 UTC
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Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Hi Christer
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
partition
and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as
it is
now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
She looked into the Readme.txt for SMPmW118 and came across an example
how to divorce the profile data from the current y:\mozilla.org... and
that was to set the mozilla_home to say
SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\data
This would result, according to the readme.txt that the profiles would
be stored in r:\data\mozilla\profiles and under that the profiles
themselves. One guy gave Her a tip to get rid of that pesky xxxxxxxx.slt
dir and that was to place a prefs.js containing a couple of lines os
alphabet soup, then that xxxxxxxx.slt dir wouldn't be created at all,
making the profile path much cleaner :-)
Yes, that is correct about how SET MOZILLA_HOME works, including SM
2.x going under SeaMonkey. Don't know about the prefs.js trick.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with
a directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles
for SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
What would the differences be if She uses your first example or your
second suggestion?
Shallower directories with the second example, though it is all
personal preference
Dave
If She uses your example, i.e. setting SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\mozilla.org,
I would shorten that to SET MOZILLA_HOME=R: as the Mozilla app will then
create a directory structure R:\Mozilla\Profiles on first startup.
No, only Firefox and SeaMonkey use Mozilla.
I have SET MOZILLA_HOME=Z:\Mozprofiles and under that
Downloads (created by SM IIRC)
Moonchild Productions (Where Palemoon put its profile)
Mozilla
Thunderbird
and under Mozilla
Extensions (unused, I believe it for Firefox and universally installed
extensions)
Firefox
Profiles (SM 1.x)
SeaMonkey (SM 2.x)
Much better to put these under a common subdirectory.
Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
profiles, for example:

R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.

Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?


Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
--
/GAIA (Insulin User - 21th Anniversary :-) Ex-wife deceased :-(
Team OS/2 e-mail: ***@gaea.se (Primary)
Team eCs e-mail: ***@yahoo.com (Alternate)
Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
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Christer Jacobsson
2017-10-01 05:39:44 UTC
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Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Hi Christer
As Salaam Aleikum!

Sorry for resending this msg, but She haven't gotten any answer on it.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
partition
and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as
it is
now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
She looked into the Readme.txt for SMPmW118 and came across an example
how to divorce the profile data from the current y:\mozilla.org... and
that was to set the mozilla_home to say
SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\data
This would result, according to the readme.txt that the profiles would
be stored in r:\data\mozilla\profiles and under that the profiles
themselves. One guy gave Her a tip to get rid of that pesky xxxxxxxx.slt
dir and that was to place a prefs.js containing a couple of lines os
alphabet soup, then that xxxxxxxx.slt dir wouldn't be created at all,
making the profile path much cleaner :-)
Yes, that is correct about how SET MOZILLA_HOME works, including SM
2.x going under SeaMonkey. Don't know about the prefs.js trick.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with
a directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles
for SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
What would the differences be if She uses your first example or your
second suggestion?
Shallower directories with the second example, though it is all
personal preference
Dave
If She uses your example, i.e. setting SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\mozilla.org,
I would shorten that to SET MOZILLA_HOME=R: as the Mozilla app will then
create a directory structure R:\Mozilla\Profiles on first startup.
No, only Firefox and SeaMonkey use Mozilla.
I have SET MOZILLA_HOME=Z:\Mozprofiles and under that
Downloads (created by SM IIRC)
Moonchild Productions (Where Palemoon put its profile)
Mozilla
Thunderbird
and under Mozilla
Extensions (unused, I believe it for Firefox and universally installed
extensions)
Firefox
Profiles (SM 1.x)
SeaMonkey (SM 2.x)
Much better to put these under a common subdirectory.
Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
profiles, for example:

R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.

Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?


Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
--
/GAIA (Insulin User - 21th Anniversary :-) Ex-wife deceased :-(
Team OS/2 e-mail: ***@gaea.se (Primary)
Team eCs e-mail: ***@yahoo.com (Alternate)
Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
Chunkawakan Lakota/Sioux: Horse
Dave Yeo
2017-10-01 06:00:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Hi Christer
As Salaam Aleikum!
Sorry for resending this msg, but She haven't gotten any answer on it.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
partition
and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as
it is
now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
She looked into the Readme.txt for SMPmW118 and came across an example
how to divorce the profile data from the current y:\mozilla.org... and
that was to set the mozilla_home to say
SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\data
This would result, according to the readme.txt that the profiles would
be stored in r:\data\mozilla\profiles and under that the profiles
themselves. One guy gave Her a tip to get rid of that pesky xxxxxxxx.slt
dir and that was to place a prefs.js containing a couple of lines os
alphabet soup, then that xxxxxxxx.slt dir wouldn't be created at all,
making the profile path much cleaner :-)
Yes, that is correct about how SET MOZILLA_HOME works, including SM
2.x going under SeaMonkey. Don't know about the prefs.js trick.
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with
a directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles
for SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
What would the differences be if She uses your first example or your
second suggestion?
Shallower directories with the second example, though it is all
personal preference
Dave
If She uses your example, i.e. setting SET MOZILLA_HOME=R:\mozilla.org,
I would shorten that to SET MOZILLA_HOME=R: as the Mozilla app will then
create a directory structure R:\Mozilla\Profiles on first startup.
No, only Firefox and SeaMonkey use Mozilla.
I have SET MOZILLA_HOME=Z:\Mozprofiles and under that
Downloads (created by SM IIRC)
Moonchild Productions (Where Palemoon put its profile)
Mozilla
Thunderbird
and under Mozilla
Extensions (unused, I believe it for Firefox and universally installed
extensions)
Firefox
Profiles (SM 1.x)
SeaMonkey (SM 2.x)
Much better to put these under a common subdirectory.
Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Dave
Dave Yeo
2017-10-01 07:14:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Tested, set MOZILLA_HOME=H:\ and ran Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Under the root, 3 subdirectories, Extensions, Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Extensions is empty, meant for extensions installed for all profiles I
think.
Firefox and SeaMonkey have the usual structure, profiles directory then
profile
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2017-10-04 07:43:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Tested, set MOZILLA_HOME=H:\ and ran Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Under the root, 3 subdirectories, Extensions, Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Extensions is empty, meant for extensions installed for all profiles I
think.
Firefox and SeaMonkey have the usual structure, profiles directory then
profile
Dave
OK, then She can create the structure as shown above, but what will
happen when She upgrades SMpMW118 to SM 2.1?


Cul8er alligator!
gaea - feminist & chunkawakan
--
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Team OS/2 e-mail: ***@gaea.se (Primary)
Team eCs e-mail: ***@yahoo.com (Alternate)
Team DRW Dare Refuse Windows
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Dave Yeo
2017-10-04 15:09:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Tested, set MOZILLA_HOME=H:\ and ran Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Under the root, 3 subdirectories, Extensions, Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Extensions is empty, meant for extensions installed for all profiles I
think.
Firefox and SeaMonkey have the usual structure, profiles directory
then profile
Dave
OK, then She can create the structure as shown above, but what will
happen when She upgrades SMpMW118 to SM 2.1?
Good question. It has been so long since I used the migrator that I
can't remember if you have a choice where the old profile lives.
You're probably going to have to experiment and possibly manually migrate.
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2018-07-18 05:02:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Dave Yeo
Post by Christer Jacobsson
Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Tested, set MOZILLA_HOME=H:\ and ran Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Under the root, 3 subdirectories, Extensions, Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Extensions is empty, meant for extensions installed for all profiles I
think.
Firefox and SeaMonkey have the usual structure, profiles directory
then profile
Dave
OK, then She can create the structure as shown above, but what will
happen when She upgrades SMpMW118 to SM 2.1?
Good question. It has been so long since I used the migrator that I
can't remember if you have a choice where the old profile lives.
You're probably going to have to experiment and possibly manually migrate.
Dave
Tnx for the suggestion above in this post. But would it be simpler just
crating the r:\mozilla.org, setting and let the migration do the rest,
probably the recreating the new profile in a subdir in the original tree?
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Dave Yeo
2018-07-18 05:10:51 UTC
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Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Tested, set MOZILLA_HOME=H:\ and ran Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Under the root, 3 subdirectories, Extensions, Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Extensions is empty, meant for extensions installed for all profiles I
think.
Firefox and SeaMonkey have the usual structure, profiles directory
then profile
Dave
OK, then She can create the structure as shown above, but what will
happen when She upgrades SMpMW118 to SM 2.1?
Good question. It has been so long since I used the migrator that I
can't remember if you have a choice where the old profile lives.
You're probably going to have to experiment and possibly manually migrate.
Dave
Tnx for the suggestion above in this post. But would it be simpler just
crating the r:\mozilla.org, setting and let the migration do the rest,
probably the recreating the new profile in a subdir in the original tree?
It would be worth trying. It's been so long since I used the migrator
that I can't remember how it works.
At the worst you will have to try again.
Anyways good to hear from you
Dave
Christer Jacobsson
2018-07-31 03:43:30 UTC
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Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Tested, set MOZILLA_HOME=H:\ and ran Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Under the root, 3 subdirectories, Extensions, Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Extensions is empty, meant for extensions installed for all profiles I
think.
Firefox and SeaMonkey have the usual structure, profiles directory
then profile
Dave
OK, then She can create the structure as shown above, but what will
happen when She upgrades SMpMW118 to SM 2.1?
Good question. It has been so long since I used the migrator that I
can't remember if you have a choice where the old profile lives.
You're probably going to have to experiment and possibly manually migrate.
Dave
Tnx for the suggestion above in this post. But would it be simpler just
crating the r:\mozilla.org, setting and let the migration do the rest,
probably the recreating the new profile in a subdir in the original tree?
So if She understands you the best is to use the "old" standard
mozilla.org in the old profile and having the same structure as the
current on sitting on y. On another tack: Which characteer set shall the
new user profile have? Under Mail & Newsgroup the setting is UTF-8 on
both locations. Reason? She have sent music files to a friend and
sometimes cited stuff that was US-ASCII and the mailer complained of
that so She switched to UTF-8 and the problems disappearedn totally :-)



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Christer Jacobsson
2017-10-07 07:07:05 UTC
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Yes, She wants the flattest possible dir trees for the SM and FF
R:\MOZILLA and under that
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\CHRISTER (The new profile(S)for SM should go under
PROFILES\SEAMONKEY\<other profile)>
PROFILES\FIREFOX\CHRISTER (The new profile(s) should go under
PROFILES\FIREFOX\<new profile>.
Is this possible and how should the new SET MOZILLA_HOME be set?
I don't know if it is possible. You'd need to set MOZILLA_HOME=R:\ and
test. It _should_ work but I've seen Firefox have problems downloading
to the root of drives.
If I remember, I may test later
Does not FF download for example a .pdf file to either the x:\tmp or
x:\temp dirs and then process it from there, for instance calling Lucide
for a .pdf file?
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Tested, set MOZILLA_HOME=H:\ and ran Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Under the root, 3 subdirectories, Extensions, Firefox and SeaMonkey.
Extensions is empty, meant for extensions installed for all profiles I
think.
Firefox and SeaMonkey have the usual structure, profiles directory
then profile
Dave
OK, so now we know that. But if She sets the MOZILLA_HOME=r:\ and
reboots, won't the old profiles for SM and FF be unavaible? Perhaps She
must have two command prompts available, the first for accessing the old
SMPMW118 profile, the other for creating the dir tree on r:\ and locally
setting MOZILLA_HOME=R: and invoking the profile manager for SMPMW118
from there?

And now when we're talking of SMPMW and SM, what charset should She use?
Currently She uses UTF-8 instead of the standard 'Western ISO-8859-15'
because the Swedish language's three tail-end characters 'Å/å', 'Ä/ä'
and 'Ö/ö' which isn't always displyed correctly in return posts. So what
charset should She use? UTF-8, Western or some other charset? She only
posts in Swedish and English, not other languages.

And would the structure above had to be altered when She migrates
SMPMW118 to SM 2.1 and lastly to it's final version?


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2017-10-10 21:43:52 UTC
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OK, then She can create the structure as shown above, but what will
happen when She upgrades SMpMW118 to SM 2.1?
Don't "upgrade". Don't discard apps or OSs until you decide you like
the new better than the old. Once while searching for the insertion
time of a bug I had twenty SM versions available to run.

Install the new alongside to old. Create run objects for as many
versions as you chose to maintain. Have -Profilemanager as the
parameter. Activate the run object and Profilemanager will open.
Select the profile for that secession.

My profile tree has since early Netscape been:
I:\Profiles\profile1
I:\Profiles\profile2
I:\Profiles\profile3
I:\Profiles\profile4
I:\Profiles\profile5

The above are a mix of OS/2 SM, FF, Win SM, FF, Pale Moon, Foosa,,,.

To move a profile, copy it to your choice location, open profilemanager,
take it by the hand to the copied location, and tell SM to use it. When
that works, delete the original.

Ray
Christer Jacobsson
2018-09-01 03:33:31 UTC
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Hi Christer
As Salaam Aleikum!

As the new moz and sm profiles should go to the r: partition, perhaps it
would be best creating a standard dir tree with the mozilla.org at the
top directory. So what subdirs should be created 'by hand' under
r:\mozilla.org, minding that after this box contents are transfered to a
new box, either via File and Print Services or by a backup/restore
program that a total system backup is done to an 64Gib USB stick and
after defining the stick in the new box, use the same backup/restore
program to do a total restore, then all the partitions will hold the
current contents for the various partition. Naturally a fresh eCs will
be installed first :-) On another tack: Have you any knowledge using the
WinXP backup program? The only things She want to backup are the
setting, bookmarks and password for the current browsers She have in XP,
i.e. Internet explorer, Mozilla, Opera and Google Chrome, so when Win7 i
installed and the abovementioned browsers can have their current
settings and the like restored to them from the backup?


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Christer Jacobsson
2018-09-22 07:04:21 UTC
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Hi Christer
As Salaam Aleikum!

She's resending this msg because She haven't gotten any answer to Her
question on how a new profile living under r:\mozilla.org shall look
regarding subdirs and compatible with future upgrades of SMPmW118 to the
latest version of SM.

As the new moz and sm profiles should go to the r: partition, perhaps it
would be best creating a standard dir tree with the mozilla.org at the
top directory. So what subdirs should be created 'by hand' under
r:\mozilla.org, minding that after this box contents are transfered to a
new box, either via File and Print Services or by a backup/restore
program that a total system backup is done to an 64Gib USB stick and
after defining the stick in the new box, use the same backup/restore
program to do a total restore, then all the partitions will hold the
current contents for the various partition. Naturally a fresh eCs will
be installed first :-) On another tack: Have you any knowledge using the
WinXP backup program? The only things She want to backup are the
setting, bookmarks and password for the current browsers She have in XP,
i.e. Internet explorer, Mozilla, Opera and Google Chrome, so when Win7 i
installed and the abovementioned browsers can have their current
settings and the like restored to them from the backup?


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Christer Jacobsson
2017-08-01 00:03:57 UTC
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Her WinX have screwed up the FAT32 driveletter from r: (the same as in
os2) to O:, but in the new box the FAT32 volume will have the same
driveletter R: on both sides - will do a clean install of win7 32bit on
that box on a C: primary partition and WSeB on another C: partition and
a flavour of DOS on a C: partition.
She thinks that the simplest way to place the new SMPmW profile would be
to put it in a subdirectory to R:\SEAMONKEY and a new FF profile on
R:\FIREFOX. But that begs the question, must the SET
MOZILLA_HOME=y:\mozilla.org\mozilla be changed or can it be as it is now?
Mozilla will try to use the SET MOZILLA_HOME environmental location
first, and then fall back to the program directories (latest OS/2
versions will first fall back to whatever is in SET HOME). I'd
recommend using SET MOZILLA_HOME as having the profile in the program
directory makes updating hard and will also make migrating to SM v2+
hard.
So how should the new settings for SET_MOZILLA_HOME be set
if She creates an r:\mozilla.org\mozilla catalog on r:, and under that a
catalog named Profiles and under that the new profile names for SMpMw118
and Firefox? Remember that the programs itself will live in the
y:\mozilla.org\mozilla\ dir. And btw, She kicks off SMPmW118 and
Firefox-10.0.12 and Firefox-17.0.11esr and one of the .cmd files She
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org\mozilla\Profiles You will end up with a
directory Mozilla under that with Firefox, SeaMonkey (and Profiles for
SM 1.x) directories for their profiles. Might be simpler to have
SET MOZILLA_HOME=r:\mozilla.org.
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<$quote>
setlocal
set BEGINLIBPATH=n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\firefox-17.0.11esr
set LIBPATHSTRICT=T
set MOZILLA_PLUGIN_PATH=n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\plugins
cdd n:\mozilla.org\mozilla\firefox-17.0.11esr
firefox.exe -P "default" -no_remote
endlocal
</quote>
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Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not
easy getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better,
the Arca Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
She can access the ArcaNoae site through nftp/2, but in what catalog
under the /pub catalog does this utility live? Her browers misbehaves,
crashing as often as not, that's why She tries to use the NFTP/2 ftp
client instead as THIS program doesn't crash at all :-)


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Dave Yeo
2017-08-03 03:42:08 UTC
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Eventually you should consider upgrading SeaMonkey and Firefox. Not
easy getting all the dependencies unless you use YUM/RPM or better,
the Arca Noae Package Manager (ANPM), free download.
She can access the ArcaNoae site through nftp/2, but in what catalog
under the /pub catalog does this utility live? Her browers misbehaves,
crashing as often as not, that's why She tries to use the NFTP/2 ftp
client instead as THIS program doesn't crash at all :-)
Log in with user ***@arcanoae.com and your email for the password.
Under /pub will be one directory, anpm. Download anpm_1_01.exe from
there along any language files you need. I can't remember which version
of eCS your using, you might also need klibccfg_1_0_2_2.exe, which you
should run first.
Make sure you reboot after running anpm_1_01.exe and also after using it
to update your packages. The Mozilla README.OS2 explains how to get the
needed packages.
Dave
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